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patti smith on trampin'


Interviewed by Todd Baesen
Exclusive to Sari Gurney's website
Summer 2004

With her ninth album, Patti Smith, that protean American artist, has served up a tasty concoction of musical treats that is both food for thought and a delight to the ears. It's akin to experiencing the first day of spring, after a long, harsh winter. The highly ambitious album celebrates all that is best in American ideals and values, starting with the seminal documents prepared by our founding fathers 228 years ago, The Declaration of Independence and The Bill of Rights. In short, it is as American as mom and apple (or Gone) Pie. It's exuberant tone of joy and optimism is all the more remarkable, in that much of it's subject matter - The war in Iraq, the disenfranchised and homeless, death and dying - are hardly topics one associates with cheeriness. However, they are all part of life and living in the world today, and Smith and her band wisely treat these issues in a simple and direct musical style that never allows an overabundance of production to obscure the power of her lyrics.


The album kicks off with a jubilant "Jubilee," a folksy tune suggesting a dance hall meeting at a frontier hoedown. But the bubble of beatitude bursts suddenly when war mongering hawks appear in the sky like kamikaze's ready to "scatter our glad day with debt and despair" amidst the pristine beauty of the American landscape. Smith also issues a sobering warning, that "our vital realms are being squeezed, curtailing civil liberties," before appealing to the American sense of justice and fair play, with a refrain of "recruit the dreams that sing to thee - Let freedom ring!"

Was the Hoedown Hall you describe in your book "Woolgathering" in the back of your mind when you wrote the lyrics to "Jubilee"?

PATTI SMITH: i was raised across the street from hoedown hall - a square dance hall - and that music is part of me. the fiddlers call. the peoples response. i thought the spirit of jubilee merited a fiddle. And our engineers mother, rebecca weiner played fiddle on libby's song on gung ho.

I noticed that in your manuscript page for "Jubilee," there isn't a reference yet to William Blake's painting, Glad Day. Did you add that as a last minute inspiration?

PATTI SMITH: i can't remember. i only remember thinking later they were good words to begin the album with. i wanted the first line to be joyous ("Oh glad day to celebrate").

As Lenny Kaye notes, in the book of Leviticus, God told Moses that the Hebrew slaves were to be freed every 50 years, and during that Jubilee year, the land was to remain fallow. Was that an idea you wanted to bring indirectly into "Jubilee," relating, as it does, back to the slave theme of "Strange Messenger"?



PATTI SMITH: that is possible.

It's ironic that President Bush keeps talking about "letting freedom ring" in Iraq, which is now the only reason he has left to justify going to war there. Do you think the next President should commit to unilaterally withdrawing the majority of US troops in Iraq and turning control over to a UN peacekeeping force?

PATTI SMITH: i'm not qualified to answer that question; a panel of Iraqi leaders should be consulted. i am better at knowing when to prevent a mess than at cleaning one up.

The "Doves multiplying" lyric in "Jubilee" resonates back to the cover image of "Wave," as well as to the doves lyrics in "Frederick" and "When Doves Cry." When Robert Mapplethorpe took the cover photograph of you for "Wave," was it hard getting the doves into position?

PATTI SMITH: it was not difficult. the doves were very friendly.