US ILL discussions

Subject: US ILL discussions
From: Emanuella Giavarra (
Date: ke 20 elo    1997 - 17:59:04 EEST

Dear list members,

During the last months an interesting discussion on ILL took place on
the US liblicense-list. Some of the messages were already forwarded to
this list. Ann Okerson conducted a straw poll on ILL among the list
subscribers and the results are given below. For whom is interested to
read the complete set of messages on the ILL discussion,should visit:

Kind regards,
Emanuella Giavarra
To Liblicense-l readers:

On July 13th, after an animated thread on this list re. ILL and whether
librarians should accept licenses that do NOT permit it, we conducted a
straw poll that 137 of you (just under 10% of the list's readers)
responded to. The responses to the ILL question appear below, with a
breakdown by category of respondent (we've broken US out from non-US to
see if there are any clearly US-centric views among librarians, but this
proves not to be the case.).

As you will see, 5 librarians out of 123 think that ILL is not an
effective concept to carry into the electronic environment; 118 believe
some provision needs to be made for electronic "ILL." That's over 95%.

More interesting are the reasons librarians advocate for this strongly
held view. A number of respondents characterize this accommodation of
electronic ILL as possibly an interim need (without speculating just how
long an interim period might be) until the time when easy and affordable
by-the-piece delivery from publishers might be an effective substitute.

We'll make the full text of the replies (without attached names)
available on the Liblicense Web site later this week and will let you
know the precise URL at that time.

Thanks for participating. This was a most instructive small exercise
and your willingness to respond made it so.

We have quantified to some extent a strong feeling on the part of
librarians about ILL in e-contracts -- and Bernie Sloan's challenge
to this list comes to the fore: what can we, those who care about
electronic licensing, do to move forward on this difficult matter?

Ann Okerson


QUESTION: If I were advising parties to an agreement between electronic
copyright holders and users, I would recommend the following position:

CHECK ONLY ONE - a check or x or yes indicates you agree with that

1. ILL is not a concept that finds an analog in the electronic
environment; it should not be permitted in electronic information

2. ILL (libraries sending a copy of an article to another library
for its users) should be permitted in electronic contracts subject
either to the CONTU suggestion of five or some other agreed-upon limit.

3. Not sure or undecided.

Respondents: Reply1 Reply2 Reply 3

Librarians, US 3 87 6
Librarians, other 2 19

Copyright Holder 6 3 1

Attorney 1

Vendor 2

Scholar/Reader 2

Other (including Lib.Adm.. Independent information broker, Staff- Head
Document Delivery Services, Research Officer for Charity devoted to
ensuring health science literature is available in developing

                                4 1

Totals 11 118 8


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